Monthly Archives: May 2020

How-to-build-a-freewheel-hub-motor-for-electric-bike-conversion-kit

Posted by on May 31, 2020 Comments Off on How-to-build-a-freewheel-hub-motor-for-electric-bike-conversion-kit

These days 250w hub motor wheels are popular with European. Nearly all of hub bike motor are brushless geared. Because there are several gears inside hub. It has more powerful than 250w brushless geared motor.
Order 1 set 12″ 14″ 16″ 18″ 20″ 24″ 26″ 700c 27.5(650) 27″ 28″ 29 inch hub motor electric bike conversion kit , convert your common bike to e-bike is so easy. Directly front or rear drive your bike.
The important part is an engine -hub motor. How to build this? There are some differences with brushless freewheel hub motor.

Step 1: winding
Calculate motor power, speed RPM and confirm what type of copper wire would you use, wind copper wires by handwork or machine, each notch should be separated by insulating paper so that not shot circuit between the coil. It takes about 1 hour to done it by handwork. And should use rubberized fabric to wrap your fingers. Nipping copper wires will break your fingers.

Step 2: fix axis into motor
Put axis into rotor winding and use a key to fix axis. Use A-B glue to paste three hall sensors on hub motor rotor, put 9-pin (three pin/each hall) into PCB and use insulated wire to fix it. Put 8-pin cable inside the axis and heavy yellow, blue, green wires to connect the three copper wires(Phase A,B,C) separately. Thin red, black wires are be weld to PCB + and – .

Step 3:soak paint
After winding should soak paint in order to be insulated. Use brush to put the insulated paint on the winding and make sure be soaked everywhere. It takes about 24 hours.

Step 4:press gear into hub
Use presser to press steel 90-gear into hub. This hub with one side cover.

Step 5:fix three gears
Use retainer ring and key to fix three white nylon gears on one steel 21-gear.

Step 6:fix magnet
Fix magnet inside the hoops.

Step 7:install rotor winding into this magnet hoops.

Step 8:install there gears on the axis of this rotor winding and put inside of hub with 90-gears.

Step 9:install the other cover.
Use screw driver to tight screw nuts. Done it.

Power on battery and use bldc motor controller to drive this hub motor. If no any strange noise. It’s okay.Then according as the size of your bike to fit this geared spoke hub motor to 20″ 24″ 26″ 27.5″ 700c 27″ 28″ and 29 inch bike kit wheel.

Hub motor, bike kit, bike motor supplier: Leaf Motor Technology Co., Ltd

looking for some hub motor

Posted by on May 31, 2020 Comments Off on looking for some hub motor

We are looking to source some hub motor for a US based e-scooter project.

This one is a prototype but we hope to be in limited production later this year or early next.Each scooter will use two hub motors.

The hub motor needs approximately the following peak spec’s:
Work Voltage:36-48V nominal
Motor Speed:500 rpm at nominal voltage
Power:700-1000W steady state
Full axle (i.e. mountable on both ends)
DC Brushed or Brushless Permanent Magnet
160mm max width

Several of your hub motors seem to be pretty close to this.

From your website:
HBl — turns ~300rpm at 36V. Extrapolating out from the speed constant,at 48V this winding would do about 400rpm. This might be okay but do you have a winding with a higher speed constant?

It looks like the HBL-16″ is the same hub motor with a rim already mounted. This would be of interest.

Please let me know if I can buy 2-4 of these, and how fast I could get them in the United States. Do you have a dealer that stocks them in the US or do you ship direct from China?

Answer:Our 48V 1000W hbl hub motor is fit for your order.Standard 26″ 48V 1000W hub motor wheel reaches 26.7m/h.If need faster speed hub motor. We can customise motor speed.

We suggest you choose 16″ 48V 1000W rear hub motor.It’s 135mm width and
fit for 135mm fork.There are two screw threats on each side cover that are used to install disk brake and 6-sprocket.We re-change the gauge of the coil wires and/or the turns number of the coils,the fastest speed can reach more than 700rpm.

About motor drawings,please visit or download from https://www.leafmotor.com
We can ship 2-4 sets of samples to you by EMS.It takes about 3-7 days to deliver.

Thanks for you are interested in our hub motor.

Hub Motor controller for electric bike motor kit

Posted by on May 31, 2020 Comments Off on Hub Motor controller for electric bike motor kit

Hi, my name is Joseph, I am from USA and I already got two electric bike motor kits from you in the recent past.

But now I have the need to buy a new hub motor controller that works with 60 volt , I have 8 lead gel battery. The one I had from you is 48v 13amp and worked fine during long time. But with 60v is now is burn… Motor ok, 1500 w, lcd3 also works fine. Can you get the same type of controller with 60v output? With regen function and reverse like the 48 v controller?

I know that I must be careful with motor in future using 60v, but i take the risk because buy a complete new kit is too much tax .

If it’s possible I will be happy to ride again scooter

Yes,we have 60v LCD hub motor controller.
Features:
Suitable for Electric for electric bike & scooter
Rated Voltage: DC 60 Volts
Min. Voltage: DC 40 ± 0.5 V
Rated power: 2500 Watts
Casing material: aluminium
Maximum Current: 55 A ± 1 Amps (Updated to be 55A)
Thermal: aluminum shell and the substrate

3 phase 120° brushless motor
Operating Conditions: -20~45 °C
Waterproof design
Size: 234 mm L × 82 mm W × 42 mm H
Weight: 1.1 kg

Working with LCD-003
Display: speed, mileage, battery gauge…

Functions:
Mute when start
Speed limit
Power cut brake
Blockage protection
Current limit protection
E-ABS brake
Short circuit protection
Avoid out of control
1:1 pedal assist function
Undervoltage protection

Additional features:
* Cruise
* Reverse
* Regen brake
* Pedal assist ( 1 – 5 )
* Mph / kmh
* ….

Leaf hub motor bike kit is working

Posted by on May 31, 2020 Comments Off on Leaf hub motor bike kit is working

Q: The bike conversion kit system is now working.
Still have some questions. It is about the brakes.
If we take the red and black wires from the scooter brakes and connect in parallel to the connection of the new hub motor controller, will this have a negative effect on the controllers? My friend thinks that this should not be a problem since this only brakes a circuit.

A: About that brake has two types.ONE is high voltage to brake.The other is low voltage to brake.
Ours is low voltage to brake,you should check your old hub motor controller whether that is low voltage to brake.
If you have volt-meter,you could get about 5V from red and black wires from your old hub motor controller.If it’s 5V. That’s no problem.

Q: We finally got the chance to try the new bike conversion kit wheel after doing all the modifications except for the front brake which we still have to modify.

We have a new problem and I need your expertise. I tested the bike conversion kit wheel up the hill and on its own (without using the rear wheel motor). It went up the hill at about 17 km/hr……..which I think it is satisfactory.

However when I took it up a steeper but very short incline which is on my way home, the fuse connected to the batteries got blown and lost power (no electricity).

The fuse is gauged at 10A. What should I do to avoid blowing out the fuse? If I change the fuse to a different amperage, will this have negative consequences for the rear motor? Do you suggest anything different?

As always, appreciate your assistance.

A: When up the hill,the current will reach about 15A.If too steep hill,it will reach more than 20A.
20A-30A current is easy to break controller.
Sometimes 15A continuous current for about half an hour also can break controller that’s because of too hot will break hub motor controller’s MOSFET.

We suggest:
* Cool controller is important.
* When you up hill,use two hub motors.On the flat road,use one motor.

Our hub motor bike conversion kit can’t get any problem when your up any hill.But should cool controller.

Use 15A-20A fuse.Had better to use 15A.But if use 20A fuse,climb hill has more power.But we worry controller.

E-bike with electric bike kit almost done, but..

Posted by on May 25, 2020 Comments Off on E-bike with electric bike kit almost done, but..

E-bike with electric bike kit almost done, please help with final issue: Throttle

Q:I am almost done with electric bike kit, everything is ok except the throttle is not working. I connected the old throttle from my old e-bike, it’s connections fits the lcc-001 controller.But as I connect it, the motor doesn’t run at all.
What kind of throttle is to be connected to this controller to achieve speed control from 0 to full speed: potentiometer type or Hall Effect type?
My current throttle is 3 wired connected to a very small chip, which is moving along a magnet.

Answer 1:Pls check three-pin throttle connector.

Answer 2:Disconnect and re-connect these two connectors.Check male-female connector and pins.
If still not work,buy a new throttle or use a potentiometer to replace.

Answer 3:Make your electric bike kit wheel in the air,short red and green wires(3-pin throttle connector on controller).
Power on battery,motor will run as the fastest speed at once.
If not,it’s not throttle issue.

Answer 4:Yeah,jump red and green wires.If your system is no problem,e-bike can run at once.
Make sure your electric bike kit wheel in the air.

Answer 5:You had better to cut off three-pin throttle connector.Then connect wires as below:
Throttle —– Controller
red —– red
black —– black
white —– green

If you have volt-meter,pls power on,then test voltage from controller throttle connector.
1.red and black is about 4.5V
2.green and black is about 2.3V

Make a jumper between red and green,the electric bike kit wheel will run at once.

Done following above,if no any voltage and still no work.Pls replace controller.

Q:Thanks all,I dis-connected throttle connector and found green and white wires didn’t touch well.Re-made a new throttle connector,supply power,electric bike works without any noise.Prefer leafmotor’s electric bike kit.

How to make a hub motor for electric bike?

Posted by on May 25, 2020 Comments Off on How to make a hub motor for electric bike?

How to make a hub motor for electric bike?
Motorized hub motor can drive your e-bike.Everyone know motor controller,battery,throttle,brake lever etc other accessories.
But for motor,it seams a little mystic.Actually it’s not.
Because of hub motor doesn’t have two carbon brush inside motor,so called brushless. If have,it’s brushed hub motor.
Now we talk about brushless hub motor.
This hub motor is made of copper coil, aluminium / or steel rotor bracket,three hall sensors,

Needs below stuff：
1.1 pcs of Al motor hub and 2 pcs of Al motor covers (made by foundry)；
2.1 pcs of axis (fix on rotor);
3.2 pcs of bearings (fix on each cover);
4.magnet (distribute inside hub);
5.copper coil;
6.aluminium / or steel rotor bracket (made by foundry)；
7.three hall sensor.
8.six screw or more;
9.insulating paper;
10.A-B glue water (fix hall sensors on rotor)
11.8-pin cable (Yellow,blue and green three wires are used for motor phase A,BC…the other five wires are for hall sensor,red is supplied +5V,black to ground.Yellow,blue,green three wires are connected to separate three hall sensors.

Needs tools:
1.screw driver;
2.rubber / or wood hammer;

The important and complicated step of make a hub motor is circle coil.It’s made by machine or handwork.If magnet no change, just change the gauge of the coil wires and/or the turns number of the coils so that change hub motor ‘s power and speed.

After circle coil,then use A-B glue water to fix three hall sensors to each rabbet.Connect 8-pin cable to hall sensor and motor phase A,B,C

Install rotor inside hub,mount each cover.Use bldc motor controller to test hub motor.

20 inch 36V 250W front hub motor – electric bike conversion kit

Posted by on May 25, 2020 Comments Off on 20 inch 36V 250W front hub motor – electric bike conversion kit

Q: We are interested in leaf 20 inch 36v 250w front hub motor – electric bike kit. Item ID #LBCK2036250F
When I buy this electric bike conversion kit . I saw picture full Twist (Twist throttle No battery gauge), please can you change to half Twist? I want this Half Twist. My DAHAN will work match washer + front hub the 100mm fork and disk? See link info the DAHAN how look Hope help.

A: This bike conversion kit doesn’t need battery gauge, because LCD can display battery gauge, we can ship you a half twist throttle to replace this full twist.
If the spacing of your fork is 100mm (picture enclosed),this #LBCK2036250F can work with disk brake.

Q: We will buy this bike conversion kit later. LCD display have MPH? I see this youtube for full max speed 21.7mph which is 36V 10Ah Rack lithium ion OR 36V 8Ah bottle lithium battery?
I think will buy any online for 36V 10Ah Li-ion Water bottle Battery, will super up hall and super run road full 21.7mph?

A: This LCD display KMH, can’t display MPH now. One week later, we will have new LCD controller. This hub motor controller has more function:
 Cruise
 Reverse
 Regen brake
 Mph / kmh
 Pedal assist ( 1 – 5 )
 …

This old hub motor controller work with this 20 inch 36v 250 front hub motor wheel. Max speed:21.7mph (We test use 36v lead acid battery)
36V 10ah Rack lithium or 36V 8ah bottle lithium ion battery both can reach max 21.7mph.

We have 36V 11ah lithium-ion water bottle battery in stock, but we haven’t updated it to leaf site. The difference between them is the bottle size of 36V 11ah higher than 36V 8Ah bottle.

When you use 36V 10ah lithium-ion water bottle battery and ride it, full speed is about 18mph.(21.7mph is no load)

Sure if I would buy the 36V 8ah bottle lithium ion battery can work with 20 inch 36V 250W front hub motor max full 21.7mph and or 24 inch 36V 250W front hub motor max full 26mph? (LBCK2436250F)

My DAHAN Typhoon twin Brake right please find attach see picture, if this e-bike right brake cable can off one, or get right twin brake e-bike?

Leaf New 48V LCD brushless motor controller

Posted by on May 25, 2020 Comments Off on Leaf New 48V LCD brushless motor controller

48V 1000W Electric Bicycle Brushless Motor Controller For E-bike & Scooter — 12-MOSFET

Features:
Suitable for Electric for electric bike & scooter
Rated Voltage: DC 48 Volts
Min. Voltage: DC 40 ± 0.5 V
Rated power: 1000 Watts
Casing material: aluminium
Maximum Current: 26 A ± 1 Amps
Thermal: aluminum shell and the substrate

3 phase 120° brushless motor
Operating Conditions: -20~45 °C
Waterproof design
Size: 171 mm L × 82 mm W × 42 mm H
Weight: 0.66 kg

Working with LCD
Display: speed, mileage, battery gauge…

Functions:
Mute when start
Speed limit
Power cut brake
Blockage protection
Current limit protection
E-ABS brake
Short circuit protection
Avoid out of control
1:1 pedal assist function
Under voltage protection

Additional features:
* Cruise
* Reverse
* Regen brake
* Pedal assist ( 1 – 5 )
* Mph / kmh
* ….

Error 4 stop hub motor working

Posted by on May 25, 2020 Comments Off on Error 4 stop hub motor working

Q: I bought a hub motor few months ago. Display error 4 is your brushless controller LCD? And I have a problem in the moment, because I install it and when I start to move the quad appears all the display the error 04 and a symbol of a tool, I had seen at the forum what’s the error meaning, but I think it’s something different because it had full charged electric bike battery pack.

A: How long did you use this electric bike battery pack ?

Q: It’s new. I have used ones for test the hub motor. It start full at the display but 100 meter later appear the error, hold on, then when appears the error, 10 minutes later in the display appear again full the electric bike battery that I use is a 4 lead batteries of 12V 45 Ah

A: Is your electric bike battery is 48V? That’s correct. The issue is battery. Do you have volt meter?

Q: Yes. I can find one.

A: Ride this bike and use volt meter to test the voltage of electric bike battery. If the voltage will drop down. The problem comes from electric bike battery. If the voltage drop down to 42V, the error will appears. If you don’t ride, the will display appear full.

Q: I’m trying to start the hub motor without any load. It works for 6 hour more or less.

A: How many current does your electric bike battery can offer? 10A , 20A or larger. You should use volt meter to measure the voltage when you load this hub motor.

Q: I bought 4 batteries of 12 V 45 Ah

A: Sometimes new electric bike battery is in stock for a long time. Even if No use. Also can need this issue. If you don’t load our hub motor, is there no error display?

Q: No, if it start to work freely, it work for 6 hours. How I use the volt meter to measure the electric bike battery? Working the hub motor ?

A: Connect red, black wires of volt meter to the positive and negative when the engine works,
watch the voltage on volt meter.

Q: Let me prove it, so I have to connect the positive of the battery to the positive of the engine and as well to the positive of the volt meter, and the same thing whit the negative ones, then star to work the quad watching the volt meter and if the voltage goes down the issue is in the battery.

A: Connect wires as before. Just add two wires from voltage meter. Red wire of voltage meter is connected to the positive of battery. The black wire is connected to the negative of battery. Make sure it on the VDC voltage position (=200VDC or ..)

Q: How volts it has to show to work properly? More than 48V ?

A: 42-60V

Q: Ok, so if the battery is full it has to show around 60V?

A: No, that depends on what type of battery. If LiMn2o4 is about 54V, LiFepo4 is about 58V. Lead acid is about 54V. When you test, the voltage will drop down. This electric bike battery is not good.

Q: I let you know if something different happen.

issue about electric bike kit battery

Posted by on May 25, 2020 Comments Off on issue about electric bike kit battery

We purchased an electric bike kit including motor controller, hub motor wheel, throttle, brake lever and with 36V 10AH bottle style Lithium Ion electric bike battery that used for testing 36V solar charger from one supplier, not from leaf motor. After charging this electric bike battery for 10 hours by better solar power, full charged, we rode the bike, but hub motor wheel only run about 8km.

We use a ampere meter in series to electric bike kit system, powered on and rode it. We got the current is about 5A. The speed is 257RPM.We use 26” hub motor wheel.

We calculate the speed is about 32Km/per hour.
See below formula:
（3.14×26”×0.0254）× 257RPM × 60 minutes ÷ 1000 (m-Km)=32km

If this is 10Ah battery, per hour lost 8ah.We can use 1.25 hours.
See below formula:
10Ah ÷ 8ah/per hour= 1.25hours

We think full charge this electric bike battery per time, the hub motor wheel can run about max 40 km. 32km/per hour × 1.25 hours = 40 km

There is definitely a problem with this electric bike battery, I’m not sure whether electric bike kit is because of the solar charging or our testing, or if it has a fault. But I need a replacement electric bike battery asap, because we don’t have any more 36v electric bike battery, and we sold 1 set of electric bike kit with lithium battery last week. I think BMS inside this electric bike battery no problem. The problem comes from the li battery cells. Maybe this electric bike battery had stayed in warehouse for a long time and haven’t charged it. It will make the electric bike battery cut down the achieve distances and use life.

So if solve this problem and let my hub motor to work asap, only replace all cells or replace new electric bike battery.