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29 inch electric hub motor kit have problems with the cassette

I ordered the 48v 1500W electric bike kit, with cassette.
I have problems with the cassette, the cassette is wider than where the dropouts sit around the axle.
So the hub motor wheel with the cassette on is wider than 135mm.
My bike frame is 135mm, and the website said it would fit on a 135mm frame.
When the cassette is on the hub motor wheel and i put the electric bike motor wheel on the bike, the frame grinds against the cassette when I tighten the electric bike motor wheel.
I have made it work using spacers so it spins freely, but the wheel is offset to one side now and i think my frame is spread wider. It is an aluminium frame.
Also the website said max 7 speed gear, but the cassette is for a 9 speed gear, which is also mounted now, is it suppose to be able to take a 9 speed gear, or is that an accident?
Any advice on what to do?
Also, any advice on mounting the torque arms? My frame is aluminium.

Steel is okay.But Aluminium is not good to make it larger. We worry if make aluminium frame to larger will break frame.
We recommend use 7 speed or 6 speed or single speed..

You will receive below goods:
1x pcs of 29 inch 48v 1500w rear hub motor wheel (black spokes, cassette)
1x pcs of 48V bldc motor controller (New version LCD controller)
1x pcs of LCD (New version LCD-003)
1x set of twist throttle
1x set of brake levers
1x pcs of three button switches ( use to control cruise,reverse..)
1x set of pedal assit ( It’s fit for European,if you don’t use,ONLY use throttle is okay )
Some spare spokes with plugs

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How to set max speed?
If you feel motor is too fast,please set it to be low speed.
* Press “sw/middle button” from LCD more than 2 seconds,then LCD will display.
* Press “up & down button” together more than 2 sconds until 72 is flashing ( 72 is kmh, if you hope works 20mph / 32kmh, press “down” to be 32)
* Press “sw/middle” button one time to save,then 29 is flashing.. (29 is wheel size. Don’t set)
* Press “sw/middle” button one time to save,then kmh or mph is flashing..
* Press “sw/middle” button one time to save,then press “sw/middle” button more than 2 seconds until be back.

I would like to order a rear 48v 1500w hub motor wheel

I really like (love) your hub motors (they perform really well and last a long time) and now I have the time to get the one I always needed.
And here is a very similar bike which also has a 1000W option rear hub motor this one has multiple speeds, most probably 7.
I have asked the rear dropout widths. Will get back to you as soon as I know. And I have a steel frame with a 145mm dropout now which I can widen. I do not 100% understand the trade offs that you are referring to when you say that the rim doesn’t matter, it is the 3 inch tire that is the issue for this hub motor as the same electric bike motor would also go into a wider dropout fat bike which also has an even wider tire – 4 inches. I need more details to understand it more clearly.
And there are other options at the front end of the chain where we can move the chain out a bit:

1. the little chain guide can help – this is mounted to the seat tube to push out the chain from the frame and tire
2. move bottom bracket out to the right
3. or get a bottom bracket with a longer spindle
4. or add spacers between the crank and chaining

What hub motor do you use for your 2000w and higher power fat bike applications? What would I need to change to make any motor work?

I see that the 2000w electric bike motor is 74mm wide which is only 4 mm wider than the 1500w hub motor. I have attached some new pics of my bike from different angles so that you can see how much clearance I have and if I just go with a single speed setup, I will have enough clearance for the chain but in case I need to get additional clearance, I do have some options mentioned previously. So my question now is would a wider or higher power motor work better? I see that the 1500w motor works with dropouts of between 135 and 155mm. And then the 2000w one begins at 170mm. I can widen my dropout and since I won’t be needing the space of a 7 speed cassette, I should be able to have the chain clearance I need.

The basic principles of the permanent magnet hub motor

We talk about one type of permanent magnet hub motor for electric bike. It’s a hub electric bike motor, sometimes we also call it brushless dc hub motor .

The permanent magnet hub motor and the hub motor driver is a typical product for e-bike recently.

Generally the electric bike motor ’s rotor winding is made of a three phase star connection, with the three-phase asynchronous AC hub motor is very similar. The hub motor rotor has been magnetized permanent magnet, in order to detect the polarity of the hub motor, there are three halls sensors on the rotor.

The hub motor driver is made by the power electronic devices and integrated circuits, its function is to receive electric bike motor ’s start, stop and brake signal so that control the hub motor to start, stop and brake; receive the position sensor signals and reversing signal, used to control the inverse power tube change the bridge off to produce a continuous torque; receive the speed command and speed feedback signal used to control and adjust the speed; provide protection and display

The main circuit is a typical voltage-type AC – DC – AC circuit, other pieces of alternating square wave frequency of 5-26KHZ modulation wave symmetry.

Permanent magnet NS alternating exchange, the position sensor phase difference of 120 ° U, V, W, square wave, combined with the six-state encoding signal forward / reverse signal generator: 101,100,110,010,011,001, through processing logic components to produce conduction of T1-T4, T1-T6 turns on, the T3-T6 conduction, T3-T2 turn-on, turn-T5-T2, T5,-T4 conduction, which means that the DC bus voltage is incremented A + B-, A + C-, B + C-, B + A-, C + A-, C + B-, so that the rotor turned a pair of NS pole, T1-T6 power tube fixed into six states followed by conduction. Each state, only two phase winding are energized in order to change a state, the axis of the magnetic field generated by the rotor winding 60 ° electrical angle of rotation in space, the rotor follows the rotor magnetic field rotation is equivalent to the space of 60 ° electrical angle position, the rotor in a new location so the position sensor U, V, W to produce a new set of coding according to the agreement, the new coding and changed the power tube combination of conduction, the magnetic field generated by the rotor winding shaft forward 60 ° electrical angle, and so on, permanent magnet electric bike motor produces continuous torque, drag the load for a continuous rotation. Permanent magnet DC motor commutation is itself, rather than forced by the commutation, also known as controlled synchronous hub motor.

Hub motor, electric bike motor supplier: Leaf Motor Technology Co.,Ltd

LCD bldc motor controller for e-bike

There are two types of hub motor wheels are used for e-bikes. One type is hub bldc motor , the other is brushed hub motor. Because the brushed motor had some disadvantage of high noise, shorter-use life, low efficiency..

These days hub bldc motor wheels are used for electric bikes widely and had replaced brushed hub motor.

So more and more motor controller are showed in market. For example: cruise brushless controller , regen brushless controller, programmable brushless controller, lcd bldc motor controller…

Convert a bike to an e-bike, we should choose a hub bldc motor wheel with brushless controller and throttle, brake lever,on/off switches,disk brake,front&rear lights,horn..etc accessories

European like 250w hub bldc motor and North America prefer 750w / 1000w bldc motor. How to purchase a good brushless controller to drive this bldc motor .

Generally 250w bldc motor need to be driven by 6-MOSFET brushless controller, and a 9-MOSFET motor controller dirves a 750w bldc motor,a 12-MOSFET brushless controller dirves a 1000w bldc motor.

Now nearly all types of brushless controller for e-bikes have cruise, alert, reverse, limited speed..etc. function.

If you buy 1 set 48V DIY kit, you had better to choose 48V 12-MOSFET/15-MOSFET brushless controller. Please don’t order 9-MOSFET motor controller to drive your 1000W brushless controller, it’s the heart of e-bike. 1000W bldc motor will bring larger current and high temperature, 9-MOSFET can’t afford.

For the bulk .of motor controller, larger, better. Larger bulk has better cool system.

In past, there was a guy sold regen motor controller, but nearly all sold regen controllers were broken in 30 days. Because when you brake, this regen controller will bring twice current to stop your e-bike, thus larger current would break MOSFET directly.

Now programmable controller is still showed in market. This brushless controller seem has nice face, but its head is small, can’t stuff more MOSFET. Use this brushless controller to drive 750w / 1000w bike system and break this nice face controller is normal. Don’t be arrest by programmable. You will find nothing for actual use when you use.

We have LCD cruise controller, more MOSFET, don’t worry your motor controller will be broken.
LCD bldc motor brushless controller for e-bike.

Bldc motor, motor controller , brushless controller supplier: Leaf Motor Technology Co.,Ltd

36V 500W / 36V 750W brushless motor controller

DC motor controller has two types:brushed & brushless controller.
The principle of brushed motor controller is much simple.But brushless motor controller should control brushless motor phase,limit starting current,control speed,PWM control etc.
MOSFET is an important part of controller.More MOSFET,controller is more expensive.
Generally 6-MOSFET brushless controller is used to control 36V 250W bldc hub motor.
36V 750W brushless motor should be controlled by 12-MOSFET controller.
Now we use 15-MOSFET to control 48V 1000W brushless motor.
Never worry break controller.

Model:LCC-001 36V 500W / 36V 750W brushless motor controller
Working with LCD
Special Features:
1.EABS System
2.1 + 1 Assistance
3.Idle Running Protection
4.Dynamic Motor Lock System
5.Motor Shaft Lock Protection
6.Power Tube Protection
7.Cruise Speed Control
8.Self-check Protection
9.Speed Limit
10.Remote Control Anti-theft

This 36V 500W electric bike conversion kit,Product list:
1.1 pcs of 20″36V 500W rear motor wheel (fast speed);
2.1 pcs of 36V 500W controller with LCD (display speed,battery gauge,mileage..);
3.1 pcs of 36V twist throttle with battery gauge;
4.1 pcs of brake lever;
5.1 pcs of three – button ON/OFF switch is used to control horn,front&rear lights,etc.
6.1 pcs of threaded-adapter is used to fix disk brake

18 inch 48V 52V 1000W rear hub motor – electric bike kit

I’m interested in your 18 inch hub motor electric bike conversion kit I was curious is this a right hand drive or left hand drive ? Does this come with a sprocket, and if so how
Many teeth does it have ? Is this strictly pedal assist or will the motor engage while pedals are at a stand still?
Do you have a 1000watt hub motor for the drum brake wheel? 
Do you make 16inch electric front wheels for surrey bikes ?  The axles seems slightly different then your standard bicycle front wheel 
Do you have a diagram as to how the drum brake connects to the wheel ? 
I see that’s a separate drum break to purchase. How does the 1000watt wheel attach the drum break? Is there a mounting system on the wheel ?
The actual drum break 1000watt wheel comes with everything needed correct ? 
I would rather purchase from you if possible since our communication has been the best. Can you work with me on the price of the wheel ? 
Are the drum break to the wheel universal?  May I ask why the drum brake isn’t included with the wheel?
What is the return policy in case I have issues with it fitting my bike or performing ? 
I am now in the process of ordering the electric wheel kit for our surrey bike. Before ordering I was curious do you have the updated lcd screen for this model ? 
It would be the same wheel, the rear 18inch wheel conversion with drum break. 
Is there any documents showing the way the lcd screens look? Is one better then the other ?
 I can choose a colored lcd screen for the controller as well correct? 
Before I make a purchase I was going to ask do you offer a thumb driven accelerator switch instead of the throttle handle like a dirt bike. 
Can you send me a picture of what it looks like please. 
I was asking if I could see a picture of the thumb throttle as well
One more question about your thumb throttle. Do you have a thumb throttle that does not have the handle attached ? I’m trying to secure the thumb throttle to a sealed bar so I need it to open and latch over the bar to secure it instead of slipping over the end of a bar like a bike handle grip. If this makes sense? 
Sounds good. If I were to want this one how would I express in my order I would
Prefer this thumb throttle ?

1500W Leaf Motor with 20″ x 4″ wide “Fat Bike” wheel

Q:Do you sale 1500w or higher hub motor laced into wheel that is 20” diameter by 4” wide for fat tire bike? If so, what are the dropout width options for axle? Can axle dropout width be 150mm wide or even wider? I have a bike frame with 170mm dropout width. I can use torque arms and spacers to fill some of this space, but not too much.

If available please quote price for:
~1500w newest model hub motor with 20” diameter x 4” width wheel (pre-laced service)
~Need motor/wheel laced with 1 cross pattern. Radial lacing is acceptable but not preferred. Black spokes preferred.
~Need 150mm or wider axle dropout width.
~Need turn count which contains HIGHEST AMOUNT COOPER FILL
~Need temp sensor pre-installed in bike motor
~Need single speed freewheel (11 or 12 tooth preferred) pre-installed
~Need SHIPPING to U.S

Also, can you sale with 750W sticker or engrave on bike motor?

A: We can make this 20 * 4 wide Fat Bike wheel.
Please click below site. This is our 20 inch 48V 1000w Fat bike wheel – It’s 20 inch bike conversion kit for fat snow bike.

We also can make 1500w bike motor.
* 1500w with 20 * 4 — Okay. (If your tire is 20 * 4 “, 20 * 3” rim is much better fit for 20 *4” tire. Also,we have 20 *4” rim)
* Please click above site. Wheel looks the same this one.
* At least the dropout 170mm or more
* With temp
* Can use single speed.But min 16 tooth can be installed on this motor. (Can’t use 11 or 12 tooth,only no motor hub use this 11,12)
* Ship to USA is okay.

Q: The tire is “Stingray tire” type. 20″ * 4 1/4″. If you think 3″ wide wheel will fit better ok. 16t freewheel is ok. Rather 1500w if motor will handle more power. Which turn count do you recommend for speed 35mph?

A: We recommend leaf 13 * 5T winding rotor.

1500w rear hub motor with bike rim

Q: I’m looking for a powerful direct drive rear hub motor for a 26″ MTB.
I’ve been looking at this motor:
1.Is this the best 26″ rear hub motor you have or do you recommend any other bike motor?
2.Can this hub motor be delivered with a temp sensor installed?
3.What type of gear cassette will it be able to fit with a 135mm dropout? (How many gears)
4.Can this bike motor run higher than 48 Volts? 52 Volt maybe? Or 72 Volt?

A: 1. We have 26 inch 48V 1500W rear hub motor. We recommend this one
2. With temp
3. Max 7 speed and fit for 135mm dropout. Default for screw on sprocket.(If you need to install cassette sprocket, should leave message when you order.
4. We recommend work at 48V battery.(Max 60V)

Q:Can this same rear hub motor also be delivered with a 27.5″ x 50mm tubeless rim?
I will install a 7-speed cassette sprocket, so very good that it supports this.

A: 27.5” and 26 inch are different rim.
If 27.5” rim is smaller than 700c and larger than 26 inch rim?
* If you need to install your 7-speed cassette sprocket. Please Note when you order.

Q: I want to use the newest 1500w hub motor in this bike:
If you press the green + (View all components) on the page you can see that it has 27.5 INCH x 50mm, tubeless ready rims and 142x12mm (Ai offset lacing) rear drop out.

So I’m wondering if you can deliver the hub motor with a rim that’s the same dimensions as the original rim?

A: We have some sample of 27.5 inch rim in stock. Looks the same to the one on your site.
We only ship two 27.5 inch hub motor kits to USA one time two month ago.(ONLY one customer need this 27.5 inch by now)
This 27.5 rim is smaller than 700c and larger than 26 inch.

Q: This sounds good. Thank you for even taking pictures.
How wide is the 27.5″ rim you have? (How many millimeters)

characteristics of three-phase brushless motor

As a matter of fact, it is rather difficult for people to analyze the operation characteristics of three-phase brushless motor accurately. Motor air gap flux density distribution along with the air gap by sinusoidal. When the winding is energized, magnetic flux generated by the current impact of the air gap is negligible. In the condition of the switch operation, the power transistor is constant pressure drop. Each winding is symmetry and the corresponding circuit is completely consistent. The relevant electric time constant can be neglected. The power of sensored brushless motor and others that control circuit are also negligible. Three-phase brushless DC motors are also synchronous motors. It is very important to protect the three-phase brushless dc motor drivers. Power transistor would be burnt down when it is overload or use improperly, because it may cause high current.

How to build brushless motor controller

How to build a pretty basic dual brushless motor controller? I’m going to focus on the power section in this post, and as soon as I have time I’ll discuss the code/FroBoard side of things in another post. I got started on the power section last night after a copious amount of coffee, and wrapped it up this morning- it’s a pretty simple build if you’re used to building stuff on perf board. I firmly believe that the best way to learn how something works is to build it yourself- that’s how I learned about electric cars, and brushless motor control is no exception. So if you want to learn how brushless motor controllers work, build one! A controller this size is a great place to start if you’re just getting involved in brushless motor control- I would definitely recommend starting out with something like this if you plan on building a car-sized controller. In fact, my first brushless controller was essentially half of this controller. It’s good up to around 24 volts and 1 or 2 amps per motor, but with proper heatsinking it could probably take a bit more current.

This post is written with the electronics hobbyist/motor enthusiast in mind. It’s also turned out to be a bit longer than expected; ah well. I’ll try harder next time! Most of this won’t make any sense if you don’t have a rough understanding of what brushless motors are and how they work- if you’re in that group, no worries. There are lots of great sites out there explaining those details;  unfortunately, I don’t have the space to go through it here. I’m really just hoping to take a little bit of the mystery out of brushless motor control and show that it isn’t all the black magic it can seem like- hopefully it helps a few hobbyists out there get a little further.

This controller is currently driven by two FroBoards, which is definitely more processing power than is really needed- it’s cool because it leaves room to read encoders, do serial stuff, and anything else you want to do in addition to running the motors. I’m running a whole robot off of these two FroBoards- usually, the motor controller is a separate unit, and another processor is used to handle the higher level decisions. Right now, for instance, I have a serial routine set up that lets me use a terminal emulator (MacWise in my case) to drive the robot around using the number pad on my keyboard, and there is still tons of room for add-ons. With a storebought setup, this would probably take two separate motor controllers and a processor to control them. So anyway, that’s pretty cool. That said, this power section could just as easily be driven off of a different processor or board; it isn’t specific to the FroBoard.

Likewise, it would be really easy to build a single motor controller for use with one processor or FroBoard in this style. It would just be a matter of getting rid of three of the half bridges. Anyway, without much ado, here’s a schematic for you all!