Ebike Breaking questions

Q: I have three questions so far.  One is about the Regen breaking, another is about the break levers, and the last one is about coasting.

For the Regen breaking does the controller prevent Regen breaking when the battery is fully charged so as to not burn out the controller or will I need to buy something else to prevent that from happening?

I see that the break levers have cables running from them however it says that I should buy break cut off sensors.  If those cables are not for break cut off sensors what are they for?  Also I already have hydraulic breaks so do you have hydraulic break levers that have the wiring that I need or do I just need to buy the break cut off sensors and add them to my bike?

I know that direct drive motors have drag however I would like to know at what speed, if any, it will “short” and forcibly slow me back down “some controllers do this”. And and what speed it will slow me down if any if I use it with the battery detached.

A: Regen breaking works while press braking leaver (from slower to stop,only a couple of seconds – impossible to be fully charged

Our brake lever with cut off sensors.
Your hydraulic breaks without cut off sensor.
If you don’t like our brake lever, hope use your hydraulic breakes, buy cut off sensors.. please click below site.
https://www.leafbike.com/products/electric-bike-parts/hydraulic-mechanical-brake-cut-off-sensor-switch-cable-1213.html

The direct drive motor has resistance, but it is not obvious. The power-off switch and mechanical brake must be used to stop the motor.
If the speed of 50kmh is on the flat ground, disconnect the power supply, do not use the mechanical brake, and generally slide more than 150m (if two rider on bike,may just slide 20m)

soon to be customer for 20 inch BMX 1500W bike motor kit

Q: Looking for a rear wheel 20 inch hub motor kit for BMX an need a 12t sprocket, also I have a 72v battery for ebike so wondering if I can get a bigger controller to use 72v battery also more amps mean more power is my understanding!

A: max 16t sprocket,we have 16 t sprocket.
12T doesn’t fit for 20 inch hub motor.
Our BMX rear 20 inch bike motor kit can work at 72v, but we should customize low speed if work at 72v battery..
what max speed would you like, 20 inch wheel?

Q: What’s the max speed, wanting 45mph or 50mph 

A: The fastest of our 20 inch bike motor kit works at 52v battery can reach 40mph
If work at 72v, 45mph or 50mph, should make low speed motor.

Q: What’s the OLD size for the drop out?

A: Standard is 135mm..
Not sure your bike, if possible, measure it very easy.

Q: Would u have a 20 inch hub motor kit for a 110mm rear drop out with flywheel for BMX?

A: yes,we have 20 inch 1500w BMX with single speed freewheel fit for 110mm rear fork
https://www.leafbike.com/products/diy-bike-conversion-kit/bmx-20-inch-48v-52v-1500w-rear-hub-motor-electric-bike-conversion-kit-1180.html

Q: What’s the kv eating of the motor so I can maybe switch to a bigger controller

A: The 20 inch BMX bike motor kit you bought that can work at 48v or 52v battery (min 40v ~ max 60v)

Can’t work over 63v, can’t work with 60v battery, can’t work with 72v battery..(Controller & LCD NOT support 60v, 72v battery)

Q: Could I change the controller an display out for 72v controller an display by chance??

A: We have one 72v controller in stock. can drive this motor..
but without LCD.

Also, if works at 72v, should re-customize a slower speed 20 inch bike motor. 

Q: My battery is a 72v 20ah battery pack!

A: 72v 20ah should use 72V controller.

This 20 inch hub motor kit works at 48v battery, can reach about 40mph (no load speed)

If this 20 inch hub motor kit works with 72v controller & 72v battery, it will reach 60mph.. it’s too fast..

We need to customize a lower speed so that reach about 40mph.

20 inch beach snow fat kit with 1500w bike motor modified

Q: I am looking for a beach snow fat kit for my bike, do you have e bike kit for 20×4.0 inch? 
1500w with 69 kmh? 

A: Yes. We can make.
Please click below site.
https://www.leafbike.com/products/beach-snow-fat-bike-kit/20-inch-electric-hub-motor-wheel/

@48v about 57kmh no load speed..  if work at @52v battery, a little fast..
Also, we can make the fastest winding rotor for this 1500w.. if @48v about 75kmh no load speed..

Q: Can I ask how much rpm, N.m? 
and with 95 kg load the speed?  48 or 52 v 

A: if full charged 52v battery, 95kg on flat road can reach about 50kmh

Q: 50kmh 52v with bike motor modified? 

A: it’s default bike motor, not that fastest.. 

Q: I need faster and i want to know the faster goes…. Important for me.. Now I have 750w with 52v go to 48kmh. I need more speed.

A: 75kmh

Q: With load? 60kmh? Just last question… What torque have modified motor? 
Now i have 48v battery then i upgrade 52v

A: 48v battery,ride on the flat road,still can reach about 75kmh
We made a sample,not test it on machine,very fast,very dangerous

Q: I don’t want to go at 75kmh but if i want to escape from dangerous situations i can! Please can you tell me the torque of bike motor? If a have problem with Uphill roads? If a lose more power or not.. 

A: all of our 48v 1000w,1500w are easy to uphill.. more than 30Nm

Q: I need your kit, 1500w bike motor modified.
Kit for 20×4” inch can i choose to use 48 or 52 v 
It’s important for me to have the modified bike motor motor, i need to have 55-60 kmh with load.

26 inch 2000w fat tire e bike kits

Q: I have a few questions to ask you about 2 of your kits. I have a stretcher Fat bike, That right now weight’s about 80lbs. One of the kits was 48/52 2000watt, and the other is the 60volt 2000watt 26 inch beach snow fat kit. I see that the 48/52 has a 24 mosfet controller, and the 60 volt has 18mosfits. My question is witch one would recommend for me? I did see I could upgrade to a 24 mosfet. I would I be able to exchange for that and pay the different? Last question, I have polish aluminum rims, is it possible to get that instead of  black?

A: What’s the dropouts of your fork, 170mm or 190mm?

Q:I have 170 drop outs and a single speed gear.

A: 170mm dropouts and a single speed
how fast would you like,…30mph or 40mph or 50mph

Q: My bike weighs about 80 pounds, I would like to be ably to go around mid 30’s.

A:30 mph speed ride on flat road

Q: 30 35 miles an hour is fast enough I’m looking for long rides I have a 60 volt 35 amp hour battery for it.I just had a chance to put everything together. The hub motor does not run, I recheck the 3 phase wire and they are good. I check all of the wires connector they are good. I disconnected the brake cutout, to see if that was the problem, still nothing I tried the other throttle that was sent, with the kit, got nothing. here is a picture of the display. Also how do I turn the back light on the controller.

A: We tested your 26 inch beach snow fat kit with all of other bike parts, they worked together. Everything was good.

What’s the voltage did you input?
It only work at 60v battery.  (If too high voltage or wrong connecting for + & – power wires may have issue)

Please take a photo while turning throttle check if “66’F” will be [ ], if can be changed, that means throttle is good.

Also, can hold on “down” button, if motor can work as “walk speed”

Q: OK my battery 60volt 35amh. I took the bike to a bike shop that works on e-bikes, and I paid to have it tested, the hub motor checks out good and the brake cut out is good the throttle check out good, hub motor windings are good the only thing that shows that it has a problem, is the controller.

20 inch 1000w rear casted hub motor electric bike kit

Q: Hey there how are you?
I m texting u from Australia and wanna ask few questions before placing an order for 20 inch hub motor electric bike kit.
1:How long delivery will take to arrive in Australia ?
2:Which company u will use for that?
3:Do u have this but 1500w 2kw or 3kw hub motor ?
4:how long warranty is?
5:do u sell special metal parts to use in a form to prevent of braking it as its hub motor has so much power? or special fork?
https://www.leafbike.com/products/diy-bike-conversion-kit/20-inch-48v-52v-1000w-rear-casted-hub-motor-electric-bike-kit-1218.html

A: 1. About 10 days to arrive in Australia
2. Our self company make hub motors.
3. This 20 inch casted max 1000w, no 1500w, 2kw…  because only one kind of casted hub part for 1000w hub motor. 
4. ONE year
5.it’s easy to brake..  (1. press brake lever, it will cut off motor power at once.. 2. also your disk brake or V -brake works that’s easy to stop motor

Q: I mean I don’t wanna brake metal parts which holds motor hub and wheel can u have a look on picture.

Do u sell any piece of metal to make supports for frame in part where frame connects which wheel? 
I m so sorry for my English I hope u understand what I m asking about

A: The dia. of this motor’s shaft is 14mm (flat is 10mm)
Don’t need other metal part. It’s fit for all standard bike.

Q: Yeah can u have a look at new pics I wound some in internet, and that what I am asking u to how to prevent it . I just don’t wanna brake fork front or rear one. If front brakes its K i can Change for other one
 But if rear, I will need to buy new bike

A: The frame quality of bicycle on picture is not good.

Many customers use this Aluminum bracket for 1000w, 1500w hub motor that is no problem.

If you have steel fork that’s much better.

Q: Just one lats question before I place an order.
Does that motor hub require special battery?
Or can I use batteries i have 2 48v Samsung ebike batteries ?

A: Don’t need special battery.

20 inch 48v / 52v 1500w hub motor electric bike kit works with 48v or 52v battery (min 40v to max 60v)

ONE 48v Battery can drive it.

16 inch 24V 250W front hub motor – electric bike kit

Q: I have an old 16 inch bike that I would like to add electric assist on the front wheel (The rear has a complex hub/cassette that I don’t want to mess with). The hub specs seem like they would work with this kind of bike but I have some questions. Will the added weight of a front hub motor put strain on the headset? Will the hub work with the compact v-brakes that came with the bike or will I need to upgrade? Will it work with my 60 psi tires? Would I be able to power my hub dynamo lights with the battery? I am not looking for anything powerful–just something to help me up hills.
Note the attached picture is before I upgraded to long swept back handlebars which should give me enough room for any controllers and throttles.

A: This 16 inch hub motor kit 24v 250w front is fit for the spacing of 100mm fork. 
* if possible, just measure the spacing of your fork, check if 100mm? -If 100mm, no any problem. Fit for your bike, also fit for your V brake, also your fork support this motor.
This bike motor is not heavy. Works with your fork. This 16 inch rim is fit for 16 x 1.5″ or 16 x 1.75 or 16 x 1.95″ tire.
But we recommend 36v 250w or 48v 250w or 48v 500w (24v 250w is not strong)

Q:  I am just researching right now. If 250W is too weak, will the next wattage size help me up the hill? Would you recommend high or low pressure tires (I prefer low pressure)? Does the price include the battery?

A: 48V 250W or 48V 500W is okay.
If strongest, 48v 1500w low speed motor.
Not include battery.

Q: Would the 36v 250w bike motor be strong enough to boost me up hills and what battery pack would work with it? Can motor batteries be tapped to power lights originally powered from a hub dynamo?

A: 36v 250w bike motor is stronger than 24v 250w
But still no good for up hills, just work for flat road.
Also, 48v 250w bike motor is just better to work for flat road, not good for up hill.
If up hill, should 16 inch 48V 1000W, 1500W bike motor.

Q: I would still be peddling the bike with motor assist rather than relying on the motor alone. I currently don’t want too powerful a motor as my current rim brakes may not be strong enough. Also this would be the first time I rode any kind of electrified bike so I need an “entry level” set up.
One other thing, how well does the motor hold up against heat, cold and getting wet as in encountering the occasional puddle? It can get really hot, cold and wet where I live.

26 inch 2000W HUB SNOW BIKE KIT – FOR 190MM DROPOUT

Q: Could you tell me the spec of the most powerful hub motor you sell in the 26 inch fat bike kit that will fit a 190mm rear dropout please?
I am looking to buy the hub motor pre-laced in a rim, can you also advise on what battery to go with it.

A: 190mm dropout..
We can make 26 inch 48V 1000w or 26 inch 48V 1500w hub motor
We recommend 48v or 52v 20ah battery.

Q: Thanks for the reply. Can you quote me for a 1500w direct drive hub wound for torque on a 26″ 80mm rim with cassette and place for rim brake with 190mm dropout please?
Here is the bike I want to install it on

A:We have 26 inch 80mm rim
but don’t have cassette version shaft for 190mm hub motor.
ONLY shaft for freewheel sprocket.

Q:Freewheel will be fine.How much to order please?

A:Click below site.  Check out… check out..
choose your country, will get shipping cost & total price.
Leave message: 190mm 26 inch 80mm
(190mm is very important, or send an email to us after paid, need 190mm shaft,  default: 170mm )
https://www.leafbike.com/products/beach-snow-fat-bike-kit/26-inch-48v-52v-1500w-rear-hub-motor-beach-snow-fat-tire-bike-conversion-kit-1081.html

Q:One more question do you have different windings available? Bike will be climbing lots of hills.

A:Yes, we have different windings available..
Just tell us max speed, we can make windings as your max speed.
We can make fastest: 22 x 3T just for e-motorcycle
Also, can make 16 x 4T – fast
13 x 5T
11 x 6T – popular
9 x 7T
8 x 8T – stronger and not too slow
7 x 9T
6 x 11T — slow
5 x 13T
4 x 16T 

Q:Which winding works well for long hill climbing without overheating?

A: 11 x 6T is not too slow,also strong.
Don’t worry motor overheating.
ONLY make sure controller is not overheating.. motor will not overheating..
** Don’t pack controller inside bag.Had better to hold it on the frame directly.It’s easy to cool controller in Summer.
** There pairs of heavy yellow,blue,green phase wires must connected well. Had better to use electrical tape winding.

Q: I saw you have a 2000w hub motor model fat bike wheel how fast will that go?
I think that may be my last question
Sorry also does hub motor have a temp sensor or can you add one please?
Hi saw this new model and had questions:
https://www.leafbike.com/products/beach-snow-fat-bike-kit/26-inch-60v-2000w-rear-hub-motor-beach-snow-fat-tire-bike-conversion-kit-1231.html

Your 26 inch 2000w snow bike kits says it can come in 190mm rear dropout, is that correct?

How many amps is the controller?

Can you supply as a thumb throttle instead of twist throttle?

Does motor come mounted inside the wheel?

What windings can you offer on this 2000w version?

Motor question

Q: What are the winding options of this one:
https://www.leafbike.com/products/e-bike-hub-motor/48v-52v-1500w-rear-spoke-hub-motor-electric-bike-motor-spline-cassette-1110.html
I need around 10rpm/v….
Do you have something similar?

A: can make as below:
max 680rpm
max 630rpm
max 580rpm
max 530rpm
max 480rpm
max 430rpm
max 380rpm

max 80rpm

Q: This rpm are at which voltage? 36v or 48v?
A:48v 1500w

Q: Another question. What is the axle nut size? M14 or m12? Or you can customize?
Can you laze this hub motor to a wheel 20 inch rim ? How much would that extra cost?
Thanks again for your help.

A:M14 (flat is 10mm) fit for all kinds of standard bike.
Yes, can laze it on 20 inch.   No extra cost.
Just order Item: LBM20481500RN  
And leave message: speed, cassette version

Q:What sort of connector it has? I assume the hub motor comes already with one cable, can you provide with a second one?

A:The connectors as pictures.
Also will come with spare connectors for controller side.
When you order, just leave message: one cable 

Q: But it is soldered to the hub motor that long cable?

A:No long cable.. can come with a spare cable..

Because cable factory supply about 1m lenght per cable.

Q:Can you confirm me please,
This wheel:
https://www.leafbike.com/products/e-bike-hub-motor/20-inch-48v-52v-1500w-rear-bike-motor-wheel-1016.html

With this cassette:
https://www.leafbike.com/products/electric-bike-parts/6-speed-freewheel-857.html
Fits in 135mm dropouts, right?

18 inch 48V 52V 1000W rear hub motor – electric bike kit

I’m interested in your 18 inch hub motor electric bike conversion kit I was curious is this a right hand drive or left hand drive ? Does this come with a sprocket, and if so how
Many teeth does it have ? Is this strictly pedal assist or will the motor engage while pedals are at a stand still?
Do you have a 1000watt hub motor for the drum brake wheel? 
Do you make 16inch electric front wheels for surrey bikes ?  The axles seems slightly different then your standard bicycle front wheel 
Do you have a diagram as to how the drum brake connects to the wheel ? 
I see that’s a separate drum break to purchase. How does the 1000watt wheel attach the drum break? Is there a mounting system on the wheel ?
The actual drum break 1000watt wheel comes with everything needed correct ? 
I would rather purchase from you if possible since our communication has been the best. Can you work with me on the price of the wheel ? 
Are the drum break to the wheel universal?  May I ask why the drum brake isn’t included with the wheel?
What is the return policy in case I have issues with it fitting my bike or performing ? 
I am now in the process of ordering the electric wheel kit for our surrey bike. Before ordering I was curious do you have the updated lcd screen for this model ? 
It would be the same wheel, the rear 18inch wheel conversion with drum break. 
Is there any documents showing the way the lcd screens look? Is one better then the other ?
 I can choose a colored lcd screen for the controller as well correct? 
Before I make a purchase I was going to ask do you offer a thumb driven accelerator switch instead of the throttle handle like a dirt bike. 
Can you send me a picture of what it looks like please. 
I was asking if I could see a picture of the thumb throttle as well
One more question about your thumb throttle. Do you have a thumb throttle that does not have the handle attached ? I’m trying to secure the thumb throttle to a sealed bar so I need it to open and latch over the bar to secure it instead of slipping over the end of a bar like a bike handle grip. If this makes sense? 
Sounds good. If I were to want this one how would I express in my order I would
Prefer this thumb throttle ?

Question on wiring- 1500w rear hub motor kit

I have installed my hub motor kit on my bike and think IT IS GREAT!!!!
I have a question about a wire from the “cruise control-regenerative brake” controller on the handle bar.
The connection to the control unit had 4 wires one of which……the blue wire…was cut.
I assumed that it needed to be fixed the two blue wires together.
I bought two hub motor kits and we have just finished installing the kit on my friends bike and this blue wire is also not connected…..so I am wondering if it is supposed to be disconnected……should I solder this blue wire of cut the blue wire on my bike …..
Again….I think your hub motor kits are great! I have referred my friends to your site and I hope you receive some orders from them.

How to use three button switch?
1.We cut off that blue or yellow wire.It’s for reverse/backward.This function is very dangerous for e-bike. If for e-tricycle,hope this reverse function,just re-connect this yellow wire.
(We cut off yellow wire.. so no reverse/backwards function for e-bike. If install motor on tricycle, also need this reverse function,please re-connect this yellow wire. Reverse works)
 
This yellow or black button be left / middle,motor works forward. Be right side,motor works backwards / reverse… (Cut off blue wire,No reverse function)

How to set max speed?
If you feel motor is too fast,please set it to be low speed.
* Press “sw/middle button” from LCD more than 2 seconds,then LCD will display.
* Press “up & down button” together more than 2 seconds until 72 is flashing ( 72 is kmh, if you hope works 20mph / 32kmh, press “down” to be 32)
* Press “sw/middle” button one time to save,then 20 is flashing.. (20 is wheel size. Don’t set)
* Press “sw/middle” button one time to save,then kmh or mph is flashing..
* Press “sw/middle” button one time to save,then press “sw/middle” button more than 2 seconds until be back.
 
Turn throttle,motor will work max speed as your setting.
 
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There is a “ 5 or 4 or 3 or 2 or 1 or 0” on the Left side of LCD.
* Be “0” – throttle & pedal assist NOT work.
* Be “1” – throttle works (If install pedal assist, pedal about 3 circles,then can drive motor to work)
* Be “2” – throttle works (If install pedal assist, pedal about 2.5 circles,then can drive motor to work)
* Be “3” – throttle works (If install pedal assist, pedal about 2 circles,then can drive motor to work)
* Be “4” – throttle works (If install pedal assist, pedal about 1.5 circles,then can drive motor to work)
* Be “5” – throttle works (If install pedal assist, pedal about 1 circles,then can drive motor to work)
 
If NOT install that pedal assist,ONLY use throttle to drive motor. But Should be 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5.(Be 0,turn off throttle)
 
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How to use three button switch?
1.We cut off that yellow wire.It’s for reverse/backward.This function is very dangerous for e-bike. If for e-tricycle,hope this reverse function,just re-connect this yellow wire.
(We cut off yellow wire.. so no reverse/backwards function for e-bike. If install motor on tricycle, also need this reverse function,please re-connect this yellow wire. Reverse works)
 
This yellow button be left / middle,motor works forward. Be right side,motor works backward / reverse… (Cut off blue wire,No reverse function)

2.Green button is used to control cruise, while motor is running,also over some speed,example: over 1/3 max speed,at this time,press green button one time,then loose throttle,LCD display “C”,motor will works the same speed. Re-press this green button one time or press brake lever or turn throttle to max,motor will stop

3.Red button be up,regen on. Be down,regen off. This regen is not strong.Only while braking with a little regen.
 
1.Be careful:
Heavy Red Wire from controller should be connected to → Red Wire + (48V or 52V battery positive)
Heavy Black Wire should be connected to → Black wire – (48V or 52V battery negative)
 
Power on battery. Press “sw” middle button more than 2 seconds until LCD be ON. Turn throttle,motor will work.
If Not work,please check below:
1. if LCD display “-O-“, the system is braking,cut off motor power.. please make brake levers’ metal ring be back or disconnect brake lever’s plug, then “-O-“ off, turn throttle,motor works.
2. if no “-O-“, still not work,please check three pair of heavy phase yellow,blue,green wires if connected well.