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I would like to order a rear 48v 1500w hub motor wheel

I really like (love) your hub motors (they perform really well and last a long time) and now I have the time to get the one I always needed.
And here is a very similar bike which also has a 1000W option rear hub motor this one has multiple speeds, most probably 7.
I have asked the rear dropout widths. Will get back to you as soon as I know. And I have a steel frame with a 145mm dropout now which I can widen. I do not 100% understand the trade offs that you are referring to when you say that the rim doesn’t matter, it is the 3 inch tire that is the issue for this hub motor as the same electric bike motor would also go into a wider dropout fat bike which also has an even wider tire – 4 inches. I need more details to understand it more clearly.
And there are other options at the front end of the chain where we can move the chain out a bit:

1. the little chain guide can help – this is mounted to the seat tube to push out the chain from the frame and tire
2. move bottom bracket out to the right
3. or get a bottom bracket with a longer spindle
4. or add spacers between the crank and chaining

What hub motor do you use for your 2000w and higher power fat bike applications? What would I need to change to make any motor work?

I see that the 2000w electric bike motor is 74mm wide which is only 4 mm wider than the 1500w hub motor. I have attached some new pics of my bike from different angles so that you can see how much clearance I have and if I just go with a single speed setup, I will have enough clearance for the chain but in case I need to get additional clearance, I do have some options mentioned previously. So my question now is would a wider or higher power motor work better? I see that the 1500w motor works with dropouts of between 135 and 155mm. And then the 2000w one begins at 170mm. I can widen my dropout and since I won’t be needing the space of a 7 speed cassette, I should be able to have the chain clearance I need.

How-to-build-a-hub-electric-bike-motor

These days hub electric bike motor wheels are used for e-bikes widely. Nearly all of hub bike motor are brushless gearless. Because of low noise, high efficiency, long life are popular with riders.
Order 1 set 12″ 14″ 16″ 18″ 20″ 24″ 26″ 700c 27.5″ 650b 27″ 28″ and 29 inch hub motor kit, convert your common bike to e-bike is so easy. Directly front or rear drive your bike.
The important part is an engine -hub motor. How to build this electric bike motor?

Step 1: winding
Calculate motor power, speed RPM and confirm what type of copper wire would you use. Next is fix a rotor on the steel shelf, wind copper wires by handwork or machine. It takes about 1 hour to done it by handwork. And should use rubberized fabric to wrap your fingers. Nipping copper wires will break your fingers. If you need steel parts for your building process, then make sure you use the.

Step 2:soak paint
After winding should soak paint in order to be insulated. Use brush to put the insulated paint on the winding and make sure be soaked everywhere. It takes about 24 hours.

Step 3:press axis into rotor
Put axis into rotor winding and use a key to fix axis. Use A-B glue to paste three hall sensors on hub motor rotor, put 9-pin (three pin/each hall) into PCB and use insulated wire to fix it. Put 8-pin cable inside the axis and heavy yellow, blue, green wires to connect the three copper wires(Phase A,B,C) separately. Thin red, black wires are be weld to PCB + and – .

Step 4:paste magnet
Paste magnet inside hub, one N pole, next S pole ..one by one. More magnet, higher torque, more power. The height of our magnet is 30mm,6mm higher than other hub motor. In market,24mm high magnet only build max 500w electric bike motor. So our bike motor works at 36V can reach 750w.

Step 5:install rotor winding
Put the rotor winding inside the magnet hub, be careful hand. It has powerful magnetism.

Step 6:install two covers
Before installing both covers, we should press bearing into cover. Use hexagon wrench to tight screw nuts. When you hear “poop” from electric bike motor. That means install correctly. Done it.

Power on battery and use bike motor controller to drive this hub motor. If no any strange noise. It’s okay. You also need to make sure you have a controller that fits with the model you are working with, or else the whole thing might just fall apart.

Hub motor, electric bike motor, bike motor supplier: Leaf Motor Technology Co., Ltd

The basic principles of the permanent magnet hub motor

We talk about one type of permanent magnet hub motor for electric bike. It’s a hub electric bike motor, sometimes we also call it brushless dc hub motor .

The permanent magnet hub motor and the hub motor driver is a typical product for e-bike recently.

Generally the electric bike motor ’s rotor winding is made of a three phase star connection, with the three-phase asynchronous AC hub motor is very similar. The hub motor rotor has been magnetized permanent magnet, in order to detect the polarity of the hub motor, there are three halls sensors on the rotor.

The hub motor driver is made by the power electronic devices and integrated circuits, its function is to receive electric bike motor ’s start, stop and brake signal so that control the hub motor to start, stop and brake; receive the position sensor signals and reversing signal, used to control the inverse power tube change the bridge off to produce a continuous torque; receive the speed command and speed feedback signal used to control and adjust the speed; provide protection and display

The main circuit is a typical voltage-type AC – DC – AC circuit, other pieces of alternating square wave frequency of 5-26KHZ modulation wave symmetry.

Permanent magnet NS alternating exchange, the position sensor phase difference of 120 ° U, V, W, square wave, combined with the six-state encoding signal forward / reverse signal generator: 101,100,110,010,011,001, through processing logic components to produce conduction of T1-T4, T1-T6 turns on, the T3-T6 conduction, T3-T2 turn-on, turn-T5-T2, T5,-T4 conduction, which means that the DC bus voltage is incremented A + B-, A + C-, B + C-, B + A-, C + A-, C + B-, so that the rotor turned a pair of NS pole, T1-T6 power tube fixed into six states followed by conduction. Each state, only two phase winding are energized in order to change a state, the axis of the magnetic field generated by the rotor winding 60 ° electrical angle of rotation in space, the rotor follows the rotor magnetic field rotation is equivalent to the space of 60 ° electrical angle position, the rotor in a new location so the position sensor U, V, W to produce a new set of coding according to the agreement, the new coding and changed the power tube combination of conduction, the magnetic field generated by the rotor winding shaft forward 60 ° electrical angle, and so on, permanent magnet electric bike motor produces continuous torque, drag the load for a continuous rotation. Permanent magnet DC motor commutation is itself, rather than forced by the commutation, also known as controlled synchronous hub motor.

Hub motor, electric bike motor supplier: Leaf Motor Technology Co.,Ltd

Hub Motor controller for electric bike motor kit

Hi, my name is Joseph, I am from USA and I already got two electric bike motor kits from you in the recent past.

But now I have the need to buy a new hub motor controller that works with 60 volt , I have 8 lead gel battery. The one I had from you is 48v 13amp and worked fine during long time. But with 60v is now is burn… Motor ok, 1500 w, lcd3 also works fine. Can you get the same type of controller with 60v output? With regen function and reverse like the 48 v controller?

I know that I must be careful with motor in future using 60v, but i take the risk because buy a complete new kit is too much tax .

If it’s possible I will be happy to ride again scooter

Yes,we have 60v LCD hub motor controller.
Features:
Suitable for Electric for electric bike & scooter
Rated Voltage: DC 60 Volts
Min. Voltage: DC 40 ± 0.5 V
Rated power: 2500 Watts
Casing material: aluminium
Maximum Current: 55 A ± 1 Amps (Updated to be 55A)
Thermal: aluminum shell and the substrate

3 phase 120° brushless motor
Operating Conditions: -20~45 °C
Waterproof design
Size: 234 mm L × 82 mm W × 42 mm H
Weight: 1.1 kg

Working with LCD-003
Display: speed, mileage, battery gauge…

Functions:
Mute when start
Speed limit
Power cut brake
Blockage protection
Current limit protection
E-ABS brake
Short circuit protection
Avoid out of control
1:1 pedal assist function
Undervoltage protection

Additional features:
* Cruise
* Reverse
* Regen brake
* Pedal assist ( 1 – 5 )
* Mph / kmh
* ….

How to build spokes on hub motor for electric bike ?

DIY electric bike conversion kit and convert your bike is funny. Sometimes we prefer to purchase spoke hub motor , bike rim and spokes. And build spokes on electric bike motor by ourselves.

If we want to convert 26inch front wheel, we should purchase 1 set of front spokes hub motor, 26inch rim and 36pcs of spokes. We can purchase them from leaf bike motor shop online.

Received goods and check them:
1. How many spokes you received. Generally we need 36 pcs spokes to built on hub motor and 12 gauge spokes for electric bike. 13, 14 gauge spokes are too thin, just for common bike.
2. There are 36 eyelet on bike rim and hub motor.
3. Check nipple and the dia. of eyelet on rim, make sure the nipple can put into eyelet.

Calculate the length of spoke :
If you use 205 leaf front hub motor, the eyelet to eyelet of rim is 511mm that is 26inch rim, spokes should be 155mm length.

You need below tools to install spokes on hub motor.
1.iron shelf
2.slotted screwdriver
3.nipple wrench
4.magnet
5.rubber hammer
6.tape measure
7.calipers

Done check, everything is okay. But we found the dia. of nipple is 4.5mm and the rim is also 4.5mm. These eyelets are too small. See pictures.

Get a 4.8mm electric drill. Drill 36 pcs of eyelets. Adjust the iron shelf so that the dia. is 100mm. Because standard front fork is 100mm. Then put the rim inside the iron shelf, hold on the hub motor. Make the first spoke wear into hub from left side, the next from right side. One by one from left side to right side. Done install all 36 pcs of spokes, please check them whether correct. See pictures.

If no problem, we should hold spokes on rim by nipples First hold one spoke on left side, then cross to fix another spoke on left side. Next step, cross two spokes on rights side and fix them. Left side, right side, a group of four spokes. See pictures.

Fix all spokes, we should use wrench to tight spokes a little, please don’t be too tight. Use hand to turn wheel, make sure there is no noise from friction of rim and nipple. Use rubber hammer to knock rim when the wheel is running so that the rim will be not jumping up and down. Still to tight spokes a little. See pictures.

Turn wheel, you will find the rim from left side to right side. In order to make the wheel running in the middle. We use calipers to measure and get the data. Then use a magnet to hold a pin. See pictures. If rim to the left, we tight right side spokes or loose left side spokes. See pictures.

It takes about 1 hour to build an wheel.

Some issues about front hub motor electric bike kit system

DIY 1 set of 26″ 36V 750W front hub motor electric bike kit from Internet shop,waited for a couple days,at last received it.
Checked packing box,it’s okay.Disconnected package,there were all goods inside box:

1.1 set of 26″ 36V 750W front hub motor wheel without tyre
2.1 set of 36V 750W bldc motor controller with LCD
3.1 set of twist throttle with battery gauge
4.1 set of brake lever with low voltage to brake
5.1 set of three-button switches(control horn,led lights,cruise..)
6.1 set of 36V 16Ah LiMn2O4 electric bike battery with 110~230AC charger
7.some zip ties(fix wires)
8.1 set of instruction manual and wiring diagram

Was told to prepare below tools to install electric bike kit:
1.open-end wrench(loose/tight screw nuts)
2.philips screwdriver(fix LCD)

By now,install electric bike kit seems very easy.But for a newer,first time to install electric bike motor (hub motor) wheel and need to connect various unknown wires that is still a little difficult.
Leafmotor will share some install experience with every DIY bike kit rider.Some issues you will meet:
1.You are going to install hub motor wheel,you should find out the motor’s direction of rotation first.Please read install instruction manual;
2.Install tyre according as flower pattern of tyre;
3.Fix 26” front hub motor wheel on front fork.If your front fork is 100mm,no problem.After installed,sometime you will find the wheel isn’t in the middle of fork,now you should use some washers to adjust.If still can’t solve it,the problem come from spoke rim should re-fit this rim;
4.Fix bldc motor controller,LCD,electric bike battery and install throttle,brake lever,three-button switches.This step is easy;
5.Make the electric bike motor wheel in the air, power on li battery and test bike kit system.If it works normal.Please use zip ties to fix wires.If not,re-check wire connecting according as wiring diagram.

This fifth step is the most important.When you power on battery,you may meet below issues:
1.The electric bike kit system can’t work.When you turn throttle,nothing is happened.Now you should check battery power connector and three-pin throttle connector;
2.The electric bike kit system works as the fastest speed suddenly.The problem is the black ground wire from throttle isn’t connected well;
3.The hub motor shake,please check motor phase wires;
4.All leds light,but electric bike kit still can’t work.Check motor wires;
5.The electric bike kit works,but just wok less than 3 seconds,all lights on throttle are off.Loose throttle,be on and the bike kit system still works less than 3 seconds.This is battery issue,use volt-meter to measure it.Full charged 36V limno4 battery is 42V and dis-charged it is 34V.The volt of your new battery can’t less than 34V.If it’s under 34V,please return it to your supplier.
6.LCD doesn’t display speed.Solve: the sensor should be closed to the detector.

Hub motor,electric bike motor,electric bike kit supplier: Leaf Motor Technology Co.,Ltd

hub motor electric conversion kit failure

Firstly, thank you for sending the hub motor with rear light so promptly – it arrived within a couple of days of your email and is installed and works perfectly.

Unfortunately there are some problems:

1) There were no instructions that I could find for connection of the electric bike battery level wire – the green one – so I am unable to tell what the battery levels are.

2) The light switch (brown and yellow leads) did not work on either the thumb control or the twist control (I use the thumb throttle control on the bicycle). I wired the lights directly to the electric bike battery leads with a switch and this works fine.

THE BIG PROBLEM.

I received electric conversion kit and installed the hub motor,motor controller,electric bike battery and the other parts on my bicycle about 10 days ago. I ride about 30km to work and back again in the evening and electric conversion kit has been performing very well. The route is quite hilly in places and the hub motor struggles a bit up the hills so I always apply some pedal assist in this situation. A couple of times towards the end of last week and again this morning when I have been applying the brakes on a steep downhill, there have been about 4 sounds from the horn and the motor has cut out. The first couple of times I switched off the power then back on again and the motor started again. This evening it occurred again and no amount of switching the power on and off would restore the motor to action. Instead each time, the horn sounded about 4 times, then stopped.

I started to ride with everything turned off but I noticed that the electric bike motor wheel felt rough and resistant to rotating. The electric bike motor wheel does not turn freely at all now. It feels as though the motor has seized.

I was relying on the bicycle with electric bike motor to get me to work so it is quite a problem.

I am happy to ship the hub motor back to you but not by air as it is too expensive. I was reading on the leafmotor’s forum that the HBL hub motor is better for hills. I would have bought this but it is not yet available for 20 inch wheels. If my hub motor is in fact unrepairable, I would like to have its replacement exchanged with the hbl hub motor for the 20 inch wheel – I am happy to pay the difference between the cost of a replacement for my hub motor and the hbl hub motor when it is available.

From above case,we are sure the bldc motor controller was broken that because of over-current brought high temperature and broke the MOSFET.
So your hub motor electric conversion kit can’t work.

Hub motor,electric bike motor,electric conversion kit supplier: Leaf Motor Technology Co.,Ltd.

Hub motor was very sluggish

Question:While trying to get the hub motor up and running here we have run in to some problems. After installing the hub motor wheel in the fork it was very sluggish to turn and took quite a bit of effort, not freewheeling at all. The first time we plugged the battery (fully charged 48V 12AH LiFePo4 at 52.9V) in to hub motor (without the throttle connected to the controller cable) the hub motor beeped three times. When we hooked up the controller cable black and yellow pin connectors to the corresponding ones on the throttle there was no response from the electric bike motor, but the battery level lights did light up. We tried both throttles sent with the same results.

As it was the weekend I went to the forum and looked there for assistance. I received some good feedback that the 3 beeps we heard were a signal that the throttle was not work which is what we found as soon as we hooked up the throttle. We have checked all the leads for correct amperage as per his instructions with positive results.

I am assuming that electric bike kit is bench tested before it leave there? The packaging was undamaged upon delivery and all seemed in good order upon receipt. If you could please advise us on what to do to get this resolved we would appreciate it as we want to get on with our trials here to be able to get out product to market by summer.

I have checked my throttle and hub motor controller wires against your PDF diagram and there seems to be some discrepancy? I wish my camera was working but I will describe my findings. Diagram Throttle Black 3 pin shows: Red? perhaps Orange?/White/Blue Our Throttle Black 3 pin has:
Orange/White/Black from core with black jump to yellow 2 pin Diagram Controller Black 3 pin has: Red? perhaps Orange?/black/Yellow Hub Motor Controller Black 3 pin has: Rust from Core with Red Jumper to PAS White three pin/White/Black from core with Black jumper to yellow 2 pin

I checked the 8 pin connector again and can’t see that it isn’t making good contact. No bent pins or obstructions.Electric Bike Motor still beeps three times upon connecting to full battery as described with and without full connections of cables.

Yes jumping the two holes as indicated does make the electric bike kit run. It seemed like at first that by moving the controller wire that the electric bike motor would stop and start as if there was a short right at the junction and we thought that might be the problem. We hooked up the cable but I still am not getting any response from either throttle when hooked up to the black two pin connector even if I move the cable at the junction and now using the jumper the short method that issues seems to have gone away?

We are trying hard to make this electric bike kit work here but I have to admit we are getting a bit frustrated. The throttle cable while hooked up shows 5.0 amps on the red wire and from .8 amps at rest and 3.8 amps on the white wire when at full throttle like it should? Without the black pin connector together there are 5.0 amps at the red wire and .1 amps at the white wire if that is any useful information.

Hub motor,electric bike motor,electric bike kit supplier: Leaf Motor Technology Co.,Ltd

Problem with electric bike hub motor kit

Good day.I have bought from you 1 set of 48V 1000W rear electric bike kit that includes 48V 12Ah li battery,48v lcd brushless motor controller,twist throttle,brake levers with 26″ 1000w hub motor rear wheel.Received all things.The order number lf283218U578679K. Shipment was fast and packing box was not broken.

But since I had installed hub motor wheel,motor controller,throttle..everything, I had following problems: Twist throttle was sometimes hard to begin electric bike motor uphill, with even slightest elevation.Electric bike kit either stops unintentionally, while I begin to accelerate hub motor, or doesn’t start at all. Usually it takes several amperes to start throttling.Electric bike motor never gets hot, only a little bit warm.

Electric bike kit (regenerative) brakes almost didn’t work at all. It is possible to stop with them only from the lowest speed of 5km/h approximately. If the speed is more than this, brakes just let the hub motor to freewheel. I don’t know if they are converting electrical energy.

When I tried to use USB cable to see, if it is because of lcd hub motor controller settings, I couldn’t connect to it. Software starts, when I choose “Connect” nothing happens with the program itself, only the electric bike motor starts to beep constantly. “Get settings” didn’t load any, changing parameters and saving them seems to have no effect on the electric bike motor. Only “Disconnect” button worked, but somehow it says that “Get settings” is complete, and any changes in parameters reset to their initial state. After approximately 360km, “Cruise control” button stopped to work. I opened hub motor and checked electrical connection to the motor controller itself, the button itself and wires are functioning properly. But I have absolutely no voltage reading on the button’s wires.

Read article from blog and forum,I doubt the problem comes from electric bike battery.It as said,there is a BMS inside lithium battery.Some cells would be dead because of overcharge or over discharge.If dead,can’t charge lithium battery.Even if charge it,green led on charger will light at once.It looks like full charge,actually no any electrical energy inside battery.So when I ride my hub motor electric bike,the electric bike motor will stop in short time.

Please, help me to resolve those electric bike kit problems, especially, with “Cruise control” button.

Hub motor,electric bike motor,electric bike kit supplier: Leaf Motor Technology Co.,Ltd

make a 48V hub motor electric bike kit work at 36V

I have recently bought a DIY electric bike kit from you, where I have bought a 36V battery and a 48V hub motor & brushless motor controller. I thought that when I ordered from your online internet shop, you would check, that the electric bike kit system would work..

On the homepage you write, that I can force the 48V hub motor controller to work with lower voltages.Also, the 48V thumb hub motor controller does not work. The twist controller works.

I have called your office and found out, that the problem is, that the 48V hub motor controller cuts off the electric bike kit system to protect the li battery. And the only solution is to manually override the system, but that is not an ideal way to operate the e-bike.

I have now ordered a new hub motor controller and thumb throttle for 36V from your homepage. What I would like you to do, is to write on the package you send me, that the package you send me is a guarantee replacement.

I do not wish to discuss guarantee and other issues with you, it is much easier for me to order new parts, but I would like to avoid to have to pay customs and VAT again for the same things. Also it takes weeks before the goods get through customs.

I also have one more suggestion for improvement:Please put 2*2 nuts on the electric bike motor wheel to be able to secure them, because my front 48V 1000w electric bike motor wheel fell off while I was starting with the e-bike. (while driven by 36V, ½ power – where I pull the break lever, push the cruise control 5 times, and use the cruise control to operate the electric bike motor) Also it would be nice if you could specify how hard I should tighten the nuts on the electric bike motor wheel.

20Nm? 60Nm?, I would like to tighten them well, but I do not wish to brake the thread. My transaction ID of electric bike kit order is 3FA78294KK410865B

Hub motor,electric bike motor,electric bike kit supplier: Leaf Motor Technology Co.,Ltd